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DaveJuly 6, 2021 3:09 AM

https://www.gov.il/he/departments/news/05072021-03
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/johnson-johnson-vaccine-and-the-delta-variant-will-a-booster-shot-be-needed/2543685/

As the Delta variant spreads in Israel:
“From epidemiological analysis of public health services in the Ministry of Health, as of June 6, there is a decrease in the effectiveness of the [Pfizer] vaccine in preventing infection to 64% and in preventing a disease with symptoms to 64%.”

In comparison:
“Dr. Scott Gottlieb, former Food and Drug Administration commissioner, reportedly said the Johnson & Johnson vaccine appears to be about 60% effective against the delta variant.”

Thus, for those who have yet to get a vaccine jab, it doesn’t matter which one you get because 4 out of 10 vaccinated can still get infected and get sick or die.

Back to the masks and isolation especially for the most vulnerable 50+ years making up 95%~ of covid deaths!

DaveJuly 5, 2021 10:47 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/news/boy-16-cardiac-arrest-exercis-covid-vaccine-110750152.html

“Boy, 16, had cardiac arrest after exercise following 1st Pfizer vaccine dose”

Given the heart and blood related side effects reported previously, cardiac arrest would not be unusual.

1 case proves nothing about whether there actually is any connection between the vaccine and a teen getting a heart attack during heavy exercise six days later, especially given the heat and humidity in Singapore this summer.

Nonetheless, parents everywhere would be smart to make sure their teens take it easy for a few weeks after each dose.

DaveJuly 4, 2021 9:15 PM

https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-data/h01053/japanese-studies-find-long-term-effects-of-covid-19.html

Japanese study finds that long-term covid side effects persist for a significant number of patients.

Around 10% continue to have headaches, taste disorder, muscle weakness, thinking or concentrating issues, sleep disorder, and shortness of breath, and over 20% experience fatigue – six months after covid infection!

With the reported changes to the immune system and blood platelets (non-peer reviewed early scientific report previews), it’s likely such changes to the body and more are causing these long term covid issues.

With the lower rates of reported long term, covid vaccine side-effects, the unvaccinated should carefully balance the likelihood of short and long term side effects of the vaccines vs covid illness, as well as severity of such based on one’s age range and personal health.

NectarinesJuly 3, 2021 12:54 PM

I experienced a more severe menstrual cycle after a vaxxed family member stayed with us for a week. My period was more intense, more intense cramps, and unusually heavier bleeding, when my periods have been consistently lighter all my life. My next period was closer back to normal after vaxxed family member left. Anyone else experience harder menstrual cycle after hanging around vaxxed?

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Dr Edna HirschJuly 13, 2021 9:33 AM

Most likely your anxiety. Sorry but I hate that excuse for women but there is no medical or scientific explanation.

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Emma YasinskiJuly 13, 2021 9:43 AM

Hi Dr. Hirsch,
It’s true; vaccines are not contagious. Just a reminder to everyone to be considerate in the comments of this article.

RedpillJuly 5, 2021 6:22 PM

A Dr. Kate Clancy began a study a few months ago when she experienced the symptoms you described but she had the shot. When she posted her experience on twitter and asked if others experienced the same, she expected to receive maybe a hundred tweets but what happen was a deluge of tweets from women having extremely heavy periods that last for weeks with huge amounts of clotting, irregular periods and women who had not gotten the jab but was near people who had, experienced what happen to you. What surprised her the most is women who were in menopause, no shot, began bleeding again after years of no periods. I personally know a woman who was on a trip with another woman who had the shot and she began bleeding and this lasted for a month and a half. She has her own business, couldn’t take the time off so she resorted to wearing an adult diaper in addition to a heavy pad but was still changing every couple of hours. Her Dr didn’t know what to do for her, so he wanted to transfuse her, but she rejected that idea. Eventually things tapered off but now she hasn’t had a period for over 3 months and no she is not in menopause. As she says she is just messed up and exhausted. Dr. Clancy has locked her account because trolls were all over it. The CDC months ago said they were looking into this adverse effect but I haven’t seen anything in the MSM.

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Emma YasinskiJuly 6, 2021 7:42 AM

The study you mention is ongoing. Here is Dr. Clancy’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/KateClancy and a link to the survey: https://redcap.healthinstitute.illinois.edu/surveys/index.php?s=LL8TKKC8DP Here is the NY Times writeup from when the study started. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/14/well/live/women-covid-19-vaccine.html This is a preprint (not yet peer reviewed) study about possible ways the pandemic may impact menstruation and the limited amount of evidence we currently have. https://osf.io/fxygt/

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RedpillJuly 6, 2021 10:38 AM

I am aware that the study is ongong. My response was to rely that she is not the only person to have this experience considering she has not been given the shot. I read the NYT article as well as others you probably won’t consider revelant but I am waiting to read Dr. Clancy’s study as well as the CDC’s if they ever get around to it.

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Emma YasinskiJuly 6, 2021 1:23 PM

Not contradicting you, just providing links and resources.

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RedpillJuly 6, 2021 6:20 PM

Thank you.

DaveJune 29, 2021 3:10 PM

The latest news reveals “COVID-19 significantly changes the size and stiffness of red and white blood cells—sometimes over months. These results may help to explain why some affected people continue to complain of symptoms long after an infection (long COVID).”

https://phys.org/news/2021-06-covid-infection-blood-cells.html

While there’s no solution to long covid yet, this does provide insight into what treatments might need to target to successfully work.

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SusieJune 29, 2021 9:59 PM

Dave, I’ve been reading your post with interest because they are so well informed. I’m wondering what you think about the Novavax vaccine, which seems to show a lot of promise of having fewer side effects. Unfortunately from what I’ve read it may not ever be available in the United States. I am not anti-vax per se but I have held off because I am wary of the cardiovascular symptoms that could result from the available vaccines in the U.S. and I would welcome another option. Also, have you read that the Germans have found a way the J&J vaccine could be reformulated so that would be minimized? I hate to wait much longer to be vaccinated and if I wait for these changes it may never happen. Unless I go to India when Novavax is available there. Highly unlikely!

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DaveJune 30, 2021 8:11 PM

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/06/novavax-now-best-covid-19-vaccine/619276/

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/us-clinical-trial-results-show-novavax-vaccine-safe-prevents-covid-19

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-19-vaccine-comparison

Carefully looking at the data, studies, efficacy, and side effects, we know that all vaccines have side effects whether for covid or another disease.

The severe side effects of covid vaccines so far seem to occur are higher rates than the annual flu vaccine (deaths, paralysis, heart issues, etc).

Some of the initial “guesses” by scientists include the chemicals they’re delivered in, the method of delivery (nano particles), the technology (mRNA), etc.

Because covid vaccines are “brand new”, it’ll take years to figure out why side effects occur and how to minimize them.

That said, we know that different ways of creating a vaccine, from inactivated viruses to mRNA, have been in use different lengths of time and their reaction profiles known.

Also, the body itself was not designed/created to replicate spike proteins like a machine, and because no mRNA technology is perfect, one can expect the replication of spike proteins that were not intended which may cause side effects.
This differs from inactivated vaccines where you can only take what exists in covid.

Now this morning, I was watching the news where the reporter put up a slide that noted Pfizer had a 75% effectiveness against the Delta version according to a representative.

Naturally, when one sees such a “conveniently round” number, one knows this is likely a guesstimate or rounded figure. Regardless of what it actually is, the percentage of people protected against delta covid is now about 3 in 4 fully vaccined by Pfizer.

What this means is the 1 in 4 can catch covid, get sick, and die. (Which is being reported already
https://www.businessinsider.com/vaccinated-among-delta-deaths-but-older-relatively-few-uk-data-2021-6)
Keep in mind that this is with low covid infection rates among the general public, so the lower chance of catching it while out and about means fewer numbers of the infected and deaths from delta….for now.

What is gravely concerning is looking at the limited data, 50 of 109 elderly 50+ years who caught Delta covid AFTER 2, dose vaccination DIED.

If you don’t know the death rate from even worse infections such as Ebola, go look it up now.

Again, a very small group, so you can’t say Delta is that bad yet. But any smart, careful individual would be restocking on N95 masks and minimizing outings and gatherings.

Heart.
The incident rate from dying from heart issues caused by the vaccine is rare. Even in Australia where there isn’t much covid, only 2 deaths out of million+ doses this year, so not using J&J or AZ reduces that chance.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/06/21/covid-vaccine-variant-afghanistan-canada-mexico-delta/7765857002/

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/14/novavax-says-its-covid-vaccine-is-90percent-effective-plans-to-submit-data-to-fda-in-third-quarter-.html

As for when Novavax will come, fall/winter 2021. They’re being careful with their trials, taking time, but still needed because most of the world (yes, those 2nd and 3rd world countries making your shoes and such) do not have access to any covid vaccine yet.

And we must look at the future of SARS-type viruses. SARS, MERS, COVID (1st generation), COVID (2nd Delta etc generation), etc.

There will be future viruses current vaccines have no protection against, and the more types of covid vaccines, the better (where one type might not work, hope is another will). It takes all vaccines companies many months to create a new one good against new variants, and if certain types vaccines can be made quicker, better.

And with time, vaccines will be improved. Whether the reduction in blood clots from J&J, or the immune system changes from mRNA vaccines.

Now, knowing all that, work Delta and newer variants out, the best course of path if you’re in the 50+ years age group making up 95%~ of covid deaths is to continue wearing n95 masks, distancing and not going out as much as possible, regardless of vaccine state.

Current vaccines already do not protect so well against Delta, so it would be foolish to think that 2 jabs is all you need to wander freely.

At minimum, 1 jab of a vaccine to provide some added protection and reduce the chance of death if infected. The vaccine companies are already planning on the 3rd round boosters, so whether you wait until Novavax is out or the booster is up to you, your age group, and your health condition. Especially if the vaccine side effects from the 1st jab are horrible for you.
(And you’ll have to weigh mRNA heart inflamation vs J&J/AZ blood clotting, but generally fewer / milder side effects from J&J.)

(Ie. A 15 year old has a death rate from covid so low, the annual flu could kill him faster.
But for those 60+, covid is very worrisome because it kills many infected in this age group.
Thus, if you were faced with a public health decision on who to give limited covid vaccines to, you’d naturally prioritise seniors worldwide before the teens.)

But regardless of whether a working vaccine is available or not, common sense!

Stay at home most of the time, go out for groceries once a week 1-2 hours, call friends instead of meeting them, work from home, wear n95 masks, eat healthy and exercise (yes, even being overweight can double your chance of covid death).

Overall, covid rose to the #3, 4 killer of Americans in 2020 behind heart diseases and cancers, so that gives you an idea how big of a killer covid is. I don’t see anyone protesting the government to ban fast and junk foods, yet people find it acceptable to have more preventable heart disease deaths.

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MikeSeptember 7, 2021 10:46 PM

Hi Dave – read your details above on vaccines with indication that mRNA vaccines different than the j&j vaccine. Don’t all deliver genetic code to the cell to have ribosomes make spike? The big difference is with mRNA type genetic code is brought to cell in lipid particle versus the j&j brought to cell in a inactive virus. So all going into cell and forcing the ribosomes to make spikes?

MiaJuly 1, 2021 9:00 PM

I read your post with interest also, most specifically the last paragraph – “Overall, covid rose to the #3, 4 killer of Americans in 2020 behind heart diseases and cancers, so that gives you an idea how big of a killer covid is”.
BUT, we all have to keep in mind that the numbers of covid infections & deaths have been/are very misrepresented.
1) It is now common knowledge that the PCR test numbers were flawed.
2) The yearly Influenza A and B numbers were the lowest since being scientifically recorded. I personally do not believe that last year’s minimal A& B flu rate was from masking-up or social distancing, although I do think that isolation & distancing played a part in the numbers.

I don’t doubt for a minute that COVID-19 is a killer, but I DO believe that we are not being told the whole truth. If available, I would take an “oldie-but-goodie” inactivated viral vaccine. I’ve still not found anywhere that they have isolated the specific virus, so a viral vaccine cannot be developed until it is isolated.

I’ve been reading everything that I can for over a year about C-19 and have learned so much. In the meanwhile, I am one who will also put-off taking the current options. My job requires me NOT to be isolated, and I have only masked when required. My protocol is what many of us are learning lately. Vitamin C, Vitamin D (increase in the fall/winter months), Zinc and Ivermectin. Easy-peasy. I get the first three body-weight-proportionate IU’s from a good (although more expensive) multivitamin. The fourth — I suppose that it’s a well-known secret now.

Thank you for your research and input. So many people here are looking for help and answers. We all appreciate any information that others can share. How true is that old saying: Live And Learn?

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DaveJuly 4, 2021 8:45 PM

https://www.jnj.com/positive-new-data-for-johnson-johnson-single-shot-covid-19-vaccine-on-activity-against-delta-variant-and-long-lasting-durability-of-response?utm_source=twitter_feed&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=deltavariant_pressrelease&utm_content=innovationpillar

Good news is that even the single dose J&J is reported to do well, even against the recent variants, so one shot of J&J with milder side effects than mRNA vaccines remains a good option for one shot that significantly helps reduce the severity of covid infections and death.

I personally put off the covid shot until at least six months passsed since release. Was going to get it Spring, but then the FDA halted the J&J, so waited a few more months after it was restarted and talked to my pharmacist friends to find out what vaccine side effects they saw.

Besides the one girl fainting, and severe arm pain from injecting the wrong spot in the arm, nothing that appeared at any rate that worried md, so I figure it was ok to prepare for the July 4th/Fall resurgence by getting my vaccines June.

Of course, I’m not in the zone for significant side effects from covid or the vaccine, so a bad flu-like 3 days after the 2nd pfizer was the worse of it, taken care of by lots of sleep.

If you’re of weaker constitution, then a lighter 1-shot of J&J (or Novavax when it is out) would help protect while minimizing the other concerns of vaccinating vs not.

Especially before fall flu season arrives.

DaveJuly 3, 2021 3:34 AM

If you like to explore “alternative/natural” methods as an adjunct to the common ways to prevent infection, improve health, there are always ways beyond pills and vaccines. Not all work for everyone, since many methods have no “scientific” way being proven effective.
(E.g. Is the Okinawan Diet really going to improve health for everyone, or is it merely good Okinawan genes? Well….we can’t take 100 pairs of identical twins, separate them, feed one only Okinawan diet and the other American diet only until they die in a controlled study.)

Look into star anise.

While Tamiflu made from this spice targets the flu, covid might be flu-like enough to react to intake of it – whether Tamiflu, or easier, chicken and beef stews with star anise in it. (Common Chinese cooking usage.)

Nutrition wise
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/nutrition-and-immunity/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24990585/

Vitamin supplements and pills are much like ultra-processed foods.
Everything’s been processed to the point where there is not much left.
(Like white bread)

Sure, easy to pop a multivitamin for vitamin c, but you’re missing out on all the other immune boosting elements in fruits like oranges scientists haven’t even begin to identify.

Isn’t very hard to eat an orange or dried orange peels for a snack each day. And just stay away from the packaged food isles in supermarkets as much as possible.

Fresh, grains, canned (E.g. Beans, corn – but avoid ones with too much salt and fat), and frozen (okra, lima beans etc) foods as much as possible.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210510/Research-suggests-Pfizer-BioNTech-COVID-19-vaccine-reprograms-innate-immune-responses.aspx

Either they’re not telling us everything because they didn’t know at the time of release that mRNA vaccines might alter our immune responses for better and worse….
(But not a surprise given that human cells were not designed to manufacture strange things, and mRNA tech isn’t 100% perfect – meaning you designed it to make A in the body to kill covid, but some of the instructions accidentally make b, d, e, etc). Just what do those do to the body?….nobody knows. We mrna vaccinated are the guinea pigs.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210624/Renowned-scientists-recovers-deleted-SARS-CoV-2-data-from-Wuhan.aspx

Or they really don’t want you to know politically….

https://www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20210630/Assessing-the-safety-of-inactivated-SARS-CoV-2-vaccine-(CoronaVac)-in-healthy-children-and-adolescents.aspx

Inactivated virus vaccine.
There’s a few.

But what did you mean isolating the “specific virus”?

https://bedford.io/talks/ncov-tracking-ut-austin-ccc/#/12
Look at the graphs and world map detailing the spread of covid.

The left chart? Chronology of the covid strains evolving, splitting, expanding in number over time.

There is no “1 covid virus”, but instead thousands of strains that are all a little different from each other.

But like all the different roaches out there, doesn’t matter if one’s bigger, another’s more aggressive, etc. They all have similar vulnerabilities that can be targeted. Current vaccines simply pick 1 way each to attack all those strains.

It’s not ideal, so current vaccines aren’t as effective against the latest like Delta. And maybe in the future they’ll have to combine several like the annual flu shot (where the best guess of the top 3, 4 flu strains are targeted at once by the combination flu vaccine).

Besides that?

Exercise and actually go out without always dressing to perfectly modulate the temperature.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8925815/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7730683/

https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/obesity-and-covid-19.html

Can’t help if one is overweight. All the extras won’t do much good when the mortality rate is 2x+ higher if obese.

And you wonder why some people wearing little in winter are so healthy. Let the body modulate its temperature – a little thermal stress might help with the immune system (but no need to freeze yourself).

The China Study. Campbell.
Yes, we already know America is nuts when they put more money into saving Twinkies from bankruptcy… The book will remind you to go back to healthy eating.

Emma YasinskiJuly 1, 2021 8:32 AM

Hi Dave,
Thanks for the thorough thoughts. I just wanted to add this article which gives a good explanation of vaccine efficacy rates, because it’s not quite as simple as 75%= three out of four people are protected and one is vulnerable. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00075-X/fulltext

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DaveJuly 2, 2021 12:27 AM

True.

All the science has more details, but for many laypersons, is hard to imagine what, for example, CA’s current covid death rates are between the vaccinated and unvaccinated.

If it’s 7 out of 100,000 unvaccinated vs 0.4 vaccinated, most can’t process that.
But compare that to the annual flu death rate of 6-23/100k, then it’s easier to digest.

Ie. “Current CA covid death rates is about the same as the annual flu death rates for the unvaccinated. But, you’ll be more than 10x less likely to die if vaccinated.”

That’s something one understands better as a layperson.
“10x better”

Naturally the 75% has more nuances – the elderly are far more vulnerable, the data is rough and preliminary, it might not apply to all people in all regions, but, any big difference of 10%+ between what Pfizer initially said their vaccine effective rate was (95%~) and now with new variants (75%) should be enough for the layperson to say “Hey! Wait a moment now! I don’t have to, but let’s put on that mask again.”

But, percentages are tough for many, so ” 1 out of 4 vaccinated can still catch delta covid and die” is easier to understand and tell others.

As long as we can all help nudge everyone towards a more sensible public health approach to battling covid with easier to understand info, the better.

Because honestly, America is one example of a country that massively screwed up.

(Like really? 1+ year after and the American government STILL can’t produce enough surgical masks in the USA to provide each person with a few every week free when cloth mask filtration is simply not good enough??
Or other countries have emergency authorizations for drugs like Avigan or others that have had some effect in some cases, yet America limits the choices the citizens can get?
Or the silly NY whining about running out of hospitals, staff, supplies when they could easily use all the empty airplanes like France did to fly covid patients to empty ICUs across the country.)

Anyways, as for the future, we’ll have to wait and see. SARS, MERS both burned themselves out of the general population in about 2-3 years, so it’ll take time to see if COVID will too or turn into the annual Bad-Bad-Flu that’ll require annual vaccines.

ParthibanJune 29, 2021 2:58 AM

Hi, 33 Yo male. Had my Sonivac first shot on 26/06/2021. On the first day I could not able to sleep and heart palpitations were at worst. Went to see the doctor and was taking some medicines for anxiety relief. Now the palpitations are no more…but consistent with high heart rate (somewhere 120). Other than that slight shortness of breath as well. Please explain if this is normal or otherwise.

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WendyJuly 9, 2021 5:40 AM

I had heart palpitations too on my first shot, and a minor anaphylactic reaction when my throat went tight and I had shortness of breath. Then I broke out into huge blisters on my wrists, one knee and ankles, though cannot find any reports of a similar skin reaction. I was scared to get my second shot but I did anyway–on day 2 so far no heart palpitations or blisters, though I have been getting the tightness of throat and slight shortness of breath. I’ve been doing yoga and deep breathing with balm/essential oils like eucalyptus on my chest, which helps a lot. I also feel nauseous now. Good luck.

John Paul ReburianoJuly 5, 2021 4:00 AM

Hi. i am experiencing the same effects as yours after Sinovac vaccine. after recovering from covid last May, i suffered from anxiety and palpitations for almost a month before they eventually eased. Too bad they returned after getting the vaccine. If you want to talk about this more, you can email me johnpaulreb@gmail.com thanks and hoping for our speedy recovery.

AlanJune 22, 2021 11:26 AM

Update. Almost 8 weeks after 1st pyzier dose still have palpitations although not as frequent. Had everything checked out and got told my heart and health was perfect so thankfully that is good. Although i have no doubt the vaccine caused it as i never had them in my life before getting this vaccine. I am due the 2nd dose tomorrow. Praying it won’t make it worse. Will update again in due course.

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BrianJuly 5, 2021 4:40 AM

Hello Alan, the same here. How did your second shot go?

CarebearsJuly 3, 2021 12:13 PM

How did the second shot go?

DaveJune 25, 2021 4:30 PM

For everyone in the same situation, I would think carefully about the pros and cons of 1 dose vaccination vs 2 dose given continued heart problem.
(After all, J&J, Sinovac, etc are 1 dose, yet work well in reducing deaths in other countries.)

Read through the other posts on the same.

Consider whether your health, work, environment, and activities vs covid can be managed with continued masking, distancing, etc., esp. vs risk of death by age range.

(Eg. If a 12 year old got one shot and got heart issues, given that their age range is among the least likely to die, holding off on the 2nd might be the best course.

On the other hand, if a 80 year old gets heart issues and is in an high-covid infection area/environment like a nursing home, one has to weigh whether 1 dose protection is sufficient since they are in a high death age range.)

In the end, look at the data, go with the gut given that there really is no prior long-term study/data/experience to go by with these latest mRNA/etc covid vaccines.

BillJune 24, 2021 12:01 PM

Second dose put my in hospital with heart issues…first dose I barely noticed, second put me on my butt before the racing and irregular heart rhythms began about 4 days post.

David MillerJune 20, 2021 12:30 PM

Had my share of side effects but still say get the vaccine. The politicalization of this is going to kill people.

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DaveJune 25, 2021 5:01 PM

I would argue that the poor public health response of countries with massive deaths MONTHS after Italy and China (meaning we know what we are up against) like America, Brazil, and India are bigger factors.
Just ask. How did China with 4x the population, no vaccine early on, keep deaths under 10k while USA with “the best” killed 600k?
Korea, Singapore, Vietnam, Japan, Australia, etc have all kept per capita deaths well below America, Brazil, India through sound public health measures.
Even the absurd no-mask rule with the reopening can be considered a big mistake given the current rise in new variant covid cases, and that covid is still prevalent across America. How hard would it be to ask everyone, vaccinated or not, to continue masking at minimum?
Prevent the intruder from entering your body is smarter than waiting for the defenses to do something after they’ve broken in, esp. against new variants vaccines are less effective against.

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As for side effects, notice the number with heart palpitations. The heart is among the most critical of organs because slight disturbances even in its ability to pump blood evenly and smoothly results in a host of secondary issues across the body.
Winding up with long term heart problems for a vaccine that only works with the current generation of covid isn’t a great tradeoff for some, especially those with a family history of heart problems.

In the end, just be smart, look at the data, weigh the pros and cons of these never before trialed vaccines against your situation, and go with the best decision you can make for now.

(E.g. Covid killed more in 2020 than accidents, but less than cancers and heart disease. JnJ has more blood clots, Pfizer has more face paralysis. 2 dose of Pfizer much more protective than 1 dose of JnJ, even against new variants. Delta variant already breaking thru fully vaccinated people. Eg. Higher death rate from covid vaccine than annual flu vaccine. The 90%+ of covid deaths among the 50+ years old.)

RoryJune 18, 2021 6:48 PM

It looks like the spike protein in the Covid vaccines is a BIG problem. Please see articles in links below. The first link contains the actual article (autopsy report) in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases. The second link contains an Infectious Diseases specialist’s interpretation (in red type) of the autopsy findings. I think it is important to share this information, especially for people who are thinking about getting the Covid vaccine but haven’t decided yet:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971221003647

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/global-time-bomb-first-case-of-postmortem-study-of-patient-vaccinated-against-sars-cov-2-mrna-found-in-every-organ-of-the-body

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TatianaAugust 12, 2021 11:40 AM

Thank you for this!

DaveJune 20, 2021 2:35 AM

One can expand upon they point by understanding that mRNA / spike production is not 100% perfect, nor the delivery mechanism.

One wishes it to be true, but a complex 50,000 step (as I recall vaguely from an article on the Pfizer production plant and process) manufacturing process is not going to yield perfection.

So now you’ve got some mRNA / spikes being injected that aren’t as designed, then the delivery mechanism isn’t perfect and you’ve got ask tag floating around in places that it shouldn’t be…possibly doing things it wasn’t intended to do.

Look up the research on mRNA vaccine design and trials and you’ll see before 2020, lots of research and talk about how to further develop the immature, untested technology, but no real wide spread stage 3+ trials, no real world mRNA vaccines approved for broad, public use.

So yes, rather than very expensive trials big pharmas pay for, it’s being funded by the American government at $20/dose~. We are the guinea pigs in the global covid vaccine humans studies trial.

Back to the real world.
1. 100% isolation of any population is sufficient to eliminate covid. China didn’t need the vaccine to do that in Wuhan etc in 2020.

2. Covid AND the vaccine both have potential side effects, long term ones, too.

3. Odd, America still hasn’t emergency authorized any more of the anti-covid drugs used in China, India, Russia, Indonesia, etc like Avigan at $1/pill~.
I won’t say Big Parma payday is the real reason, but one wonders, why can’t we get drugs that have had some effect after infection?

4. Halve your own risk of covid death?
Easy if overweight!
Just drop the fat!

1+ years, yet why isn’t the government tooting the benefits of this broadly vs masking and vaccines?

Many things the cdc etc can promote and authorize to reduce the risk of death, yet they don’t vs other countries like Taiwan (which even allocates and gives surgical masks to every citizen free…).

Emma YasinskiJune 19, 2021 9:03 AM

Hi Rory,
The autopsy shows that the first shot of the virus unfortunately wasn’t enough to protect this man from COVID-19. It does state he had some pre existing conditions, so it’s possible that he was immunocompromised and thus didn’t have a full response to the injection. The spike protein that the mRNA directs our bodies to make can’t do much on its own. On the actual virus, it’s found all around the surface. It binds to ACE2 receptors to help the viral RNA enter the cell so the viral RNA can replicate. https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/video/what-stops-body-continuing-produce-covid-19-spike-protein-after-getting-mrna-vaccine

The study shows that he was infected with COVID-19, and either died from it or with it.

I don’t think the interpretation from an anonymous scientist from an unnamed NJ hospital is valuable. It is extremely unusual for a scientist to extrapolate data from a case study of a single person to the entire population. The fact that this man had SARS-CoV-2 in many organs doesn’t show that that’s where the vaccine went- it shows that that’s where the actual virus went when he was infected. Adverse effects are mostly caused by our immune responses to the spike proteins, no the spike proteins themselves.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-vaccine-safe/fact-check-no-evidence-spike-proteins-from-covid-19-vaccines-are-toxic-idUSL2N2NX1J6

Hal Turner, the radio host who posted the article, has also claimed that people who receive the vaccine are being tracked by 5g and that the holocaust was faked.

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RoryJune 19, 2021 2:54 PM

One could just print out the article from the International Journal of Infectious Diseases and book a consult with an Infectious Diseases doctor, show the article to that doctor and ask for his or her own interpretation of the findings, to verify.

Michael LittlejohnJune 14, 2021 2:58 PM

Reading all of these comments only strengthens my position that I will not be getting vaccinated. Not trying to offend anyone, but we (the people) are being used as the experimental group (i.e. guinea pigs) and many people are suffering (some even dying) because of it. I do not trust any of thee vaccines. I have had COVID-19; it wasn’t that bad. I have some lingering issues with lung capacity (specifically, shortness of breath), especially when working out. From what I have read and heard, things will only get worse with a vaccine, so no thanks. I hope that none of you have lingering effects from these vaccines. I will take my chances with COVID-19.

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DaveJune 16, 2021 2:36 PM

Also, let’s remember the ENTIRE covid vaccines production processes are brand new – never been done before on a mass scale (for the vaccines that don’t depend on an inactivated virus).

https://news.yahoo.com/news/inside-pfizers-race-produce-worlds-115052012.html

J&J’s production plant already had news reported on its issues.

And Pfizer is being transparent in this article – things broke, didn’t work, were a bunch of off-the-shelf parts at first.

Any manufacturer knows – the first products rolling off a new production line will have issues. Perhaps (unproven) that’s why there are some of the severe side effects reported.

Hopefully, with months of production plant tuning, the vaccines are “purer”/”better made”. (It would be nice if some researcher could analyze the side effects database to see if the rate over time has declined or not.)

I watched the data over half a year, looked at the rates vs other vaccines for the flu, read the reports here and elsewhere, gauged my chance of death of infected (in the 50 yr 5-10%~ chance of death of infected age), compared vaccines ( eg J&J with blood clotting not chosen due to family history of strokes, along with lower effectiveness against newest variants even at 1 jab ), and got the 1st Pfizer dose.

I won’t say the vaccine was “ideal” – balance was off, and that’s not safe for seniors who need canes or walking aids. It’s definitely a vaccine one should prepare for the common side effects and take caution to proactively deal with them.

So again, look at the data, reports, news, know the situation, balance the risks to you, and if one doesn’t get the vaccine, continue to mask, isolate, and distance properly. (I continue to do all that even after vaccination because I know the new variants are spreading.)

Oh, and no matter which way you go, exercise and be in shape!!
Death rates among the overweight can easily be DOUBLE!

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Michael LittlejohnJune 30, 2021 10:01 AM

Thank you for your input. I isolated last year for 9 weeks when my job shut down. I didn’t even go outside to take the trash to the curb ( I also have Bipolar Disorder and was in a deep depression at the time). However, I know that everyone did not and would not do the same in the future. I am a Quality Engineer in the automotive industry and know all too well about the inconsistencies and chance of reliability issues during product launches (even within a well regulated industry), so I have definitely done a lot of research and continue to do so (which is what led me here to see what side effects people were reporting). Regarding exercise, I am a bodybuilder (in the gym 2+ hours per day, 6 days per week) and also practice Taekwondo 5 days per week. However, the inherent anxiety associated with Bipolar Disorder and my distrust in big brother does not allow me to seriously consider getting vaccinated at this point. Of course, there is also the anxiety about the possibility of what can happen without the vaccine. Either way, I am not in a good mindset, but I just don’t trust the vaccines enough to take them.

DaveJune 16, 2021 1:57 PM

1. 95%~ of covid deaths remain those 50+ years, especially the very vulnerable 60+ years.
5%~ of deaths in the young, and in certain ages like under 30s, even the annual flu can kill more (chance of death).

2. So from a public health stance, it is indeed a bit ridiculous to “waste” good vaccines on the young, while unvaccinated seniors worldwide die in far greater numbers.

3. Keep in mind, MORE are dying in 2021 than in 2020 from covid!!
Sound public health policy for a limited resource, the vaccines, should prioritize the elderly first!

4. Looking at the mRNA vaccine research publications published before 2021, you’ll find that they were in the early stages of development with many unanswered questions (ie. No mRNA vaccine I can find was in stage 3 human trial tests or officially fda released for broad use by the general public.)

Add to that the higher rate of severe side effects (vs even the flu shot) of the mRNA/etc vs inactivated vaccine means the careful should remain cautious, especially if their bodies aren’t in such great condition, have other illnesses, or simply can’t risk debilitating illness (e.g. Caretaker, assuming both are isolating well at home – deliveries only, never going out).

5. Many forget the simple facts of getting infected by a virus.
You need to be in the airspace of an infected individual (or dog since they’ve been found to test positive).
How hard is it, given today’s delivery services, to stay at home and not meet anyone? To go shop for food late at night when crowds aren’t around? To wear n95, n100 masks outdoors? To video chat instead of get together?
For the most vulnerable seniors making up most of the deaths, one can greatly reduce the chance of infection and death, and virus spread, by simply behaving as if everyone else has the black plague.
How else did China, with 4x the population, manage to keep deaths under 5,000 (reported, but could be more given that it’s China), while America can’t even stop it at 500,000 dead??
They isolated “properly”! Full lockdown at home.
It only takes about 6 weeks for the virus to die out naturally in a population like that. China didn’t need a vaccine to keep deaths that low in 2020 before the vaccines were available! Same with Singapore, New Zealand, Taiwan, etc.

6. No long term side effects study have ever been done on these just created and released in 2020+ vaccines.

So yes, be “smart” about choosing to vaccinate or not. Use the data, scientific reports, studies and anecdotal reports.

Like countries without the vaccine, you can prevent personal infection to a very high degree.

Reducing risk is like vaccinating then doing nothing to prevent infection. (And the latter might not be smart given the new, deadlier variants the vaccines have a lower effectiveness against.) Both ways reduce the number of covid spreading about, and reduce the deaths.

But, isolating yourself is the most effective way to reduce personal death given that sone vaccinated can still get breakthrough infections. Jabs alone won’t guarantee you won’t die. Some vaccines already have very low 1 jab effectiveness against the newest deadliest variants.

Vaccines are one of many ways to reduce overall risk of death, so choose wisely what works for you and your acceptable level of risk for side effects.

Just keep in mind. When the future variants that vaccines do nothing (or little) against, how did China, Singapore, Taiwan, New Zealand, etc manage to keep infections and deaths so very low before vaccines were available?

CoriJune 14, 2021 10:34 PM

Well that’s a very valid choice since the “reported” deaths from the vaccine so far are over 5000 and the debilitating side effects so much more. I plan to do the same as you, take my chances with covid-19. I am concerned that the people pushing the vaccine so hard are the same who are also highly concerned about population control.

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JeanJune 15, 2021 7:40 PM

friend, good night, sorry if I misspell, english is not my original language.
Where did you get these data from 5,000 people who died because of the vaccine, do you have any sources?
I want to read because I’m also concerned about these vaccines and I don’t think about taking them, I do a lot of research on this before I make a final decision.

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CoriJune 16, 2021 7:26 PM

Keep in mind this is the US only, and only those deaths reported to VAERS as linked to the vaccine. Did your loved one die of a heart attack 5 days after the shot? Chances are good your doctors won’t necessarily link it to the vaccine or report it as such. .https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaers-data-deaths-reported-following-covid-vaccines/

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Emma YasinskiJune 17, 2021 7:57 AM

MedShadow believes it’s important to note that many of the Children’s Health Defense’s claims have been debunked before considering any of the evidence the organization presents. Here is one example. https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/scicheck-rfk-jr-video-pushes-known-vaccine-misrepresentations/

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RedpillJune 17, 2021 10:10 AM

No they have not. Just because the MSM and blogs like this say many of their claims have been debunked doesn’t make it true. VAERS was created as a reporting system by the government, and it is a crime to make a false report. Knowingly filing a false VAERS report is a violation of Federal law (18 U.S. Code § 1001) punishable by fine and imprisonment. IF HHS/CDC is following protocol of the system as mandated every claim on VAERS is investigated for authenticity. If the government isn’t investigating the claims, they are breaking the law.

VAERS was created in 1990 by the CDC and FDA to collect and analyze adverse effects (injuries and deaths) associated with drugs & vaccines. Anyone can submit a report to VAERS. VAERS is a passive reporting system, completely voluntary, so there is no requirement for pharmaceutical companies, doctors or nurses to report adverse reactions or deaths from vaccinations. Drs have reported over the years that they are discouraged from reporting adverse effects of vaccines to VAERS (this is anecdotal of course) despite on the HHS blog it says medical personnel are encouraged to do so. HHS estimates that only about 1% of adverse events are reported to VAERS! How did they determine that?

HHS gave Harvard Medical School a 1 million dollar grant to track VAERS reporting at Harvard Pilgrim Healthcare for 3 years and to create an automated reporting system which would revolutionize the VAERS reporting system- transforming it from “passive” to “active.” This project was called Electronic Support for Public Heath- Vaccine Adverse Reporting System (ESP:VAERS). The scope of the project was, “To create a generalizable system to facilitate detection and clinician reporting of vaccine adverse events, in order to improve the safety of national vaccination programs.” https://digital.ahrq.gov/sites/default/files/docs/publication/r18hs017045-lazarus-final-report-2011.pdf
The report can be read at the link above. Taken from the report is this:

“Adverse events from drugs and vaccines are common, but underreported. […] Likewise, fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse events are reported. Low reporting rates preclude or slow the identification of ‘problem’ drugs and vaccines that endanger public health. New surveillance methods for drug and vaccine adverse effects are needed.” (p.6)
Also:
“Barriers to reporting include a lack of clinician awareness, uncertainty about when and what to report, as well as the burdens of reporting: reporting is not part of the clinician’s usual workflow, takes time, and is duplicative. (p.6)

I would also add in their fear of reputation from the medical community prevents Drs from stepping up.

How did the CDC respond to the study? In todays vernacular: THEY GHOSTED HARVARD. No more answering phone calls or emails. After a million-dollar grant was paid and three years of research conducted (2006-2009) on what appeared to be a very successful upgrade to the passive VAERS system, the team’s CDC contacts went MIA. The ESP:VAERS final report states: “Unfortunately, there was never an opportunity to perform system performance assessments because the necessary CDC contacts were no longer available and the CDC consultants responsible for receiving data were no longer responsive to our multiple requests to proceed with testing and evaluation.”

This has never been publicly discussed, the study was basically buried so what can be taken from this IMHO: the CDC really has no interest in public health because there is too much money involved because of conflict of interest.
FACA: CONFLICTS OF INTEREST AND VACCINE DEVELOPMENT–PRESERVING THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROCESS https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-106hhrg73042/html/CHRG-106hhrg73042.htm.

What is the best way to dismiss or minimize information-is to say it’s been debunked by Fact Checkers that have ties to the industry that is benefitting from a situation? Follow the money.

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CoriJune 18, 2021 9:02 AM

Thank you Redpill. Anytime something is”fact-checked” online, we know we’re hovering over the truth.

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MiaJune 24, 2021 7:16 PM

What a great definition of “fact-checked” – exactly: Hovering over the truth!

RedpillJune 16, 2021 8:21 AM

https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data
OR
You can go to the VAERS website and research the data but the above was creaed to get the info quickly.

DaveJune 14, 2021 2:31 AM

6/7/2021
  2pm~ Pfizer 1st dose. CVS walk-in. Left arm. 145lbs. 5′ 8″. O type. RH+.

  5 min after. Pulse felt in blood vessel once – upper arm few inches.
  30min. Very slight decrease in muscle strength response lifting things into cart on left side.
  Very mild upper arm soreness, comes and goes. Not always present.
  7pm. Shower. Notice slightly off balance of not focusing. Much like moving around a few inches with eyes closed.
  Hot water helps take it away for awhile.
   8:30 pm slight off balance if not focusing. Tired, maybe from early rise today two hours earlier than usual.
   Mild feeling of soreness at times in upper arm. Sometimes left palm feels a touch achy, along with some finger joints on both hands. Not always present. Like achy from overuse, or annoying twitch of ouchiness.
Slept an hour
10:30pm after eating light dinner. Coughed three times. Like something irritating throat, feels dry.
  Try to clear throat a few times. Very light phlegm.

6/8 Tuesday
  Off balance feeling gone.
  Feel right thigh a bit achy – goes away after a few minutes.
  11:25 am left upper arm muscle remains achy
   Very mild feeling of having caught a cold – feeling eartube when eating. That start of the scratchy throat feeling. Both extremely mild , just a passing touch
12:30pm slightly more feeling in nasal of impending cold.
1pm a touch of tightness in right check. Momentary.
  A touch of tenderness in left for heel. Momentary
  Feeling a bit fatigued – definitely fighting.
To 630pm. Feeling tired like the first day or two of a strong cold, but no symptoms.
22:00 head sensitive to initial pressure. Some nasal discharge, a few minutes. Tired eating dinner. Warm shower brought back energy.
Muscle arm pain gone.
Face nasal passage pressure – minor.
A few minutes of elevated respiratory rate.
Mild – loose stool.

6/9 sniffling all day
   Still a bit fatigued

6/10 back to normal
4 hours of tree trimming.

So while the side effects didn’t put me down, it did concern me that my balance was effected. I’d suggest anyone who’s got poorer balance, seniors, poor-sighted, etc to use extra caution moving about. Hug the walls even if it looks dumb! I used the Air Force trick once – suck in the tummy hard to push blood up to the brain momentarily.

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DaveJune 25, 2021 4:14 PM

6/25 – No issues with side effects except the rare dry cough urge that comes out of nowhere a few times a week. Almost like dusting too much flour making pastries and breathed in a bit of that.
Weather is sunny and good, no major smog, humidity is normal.
Energy level is normal. Trimming trees for hours, gardening, etc.

On the flip side, 70s year old mom who got 1st Pfizer at the same time had no side effects at all until 6/21 when she got a sharp headache atop her head out of the blue (unusual given she never gets headaches). Minor but lasted a day.

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DaveJune 29, 2021 2:53 PM

6/28 2pm~

2nd pfizer

Elbow joint a touch sore
Upper arm muscle very slightly sore
10pm
No real issues..just feel left arm slightly less than normal.

6-9 pm watch movie, no issues.

(Mom feels headache)

1:30am bed – upper left arm muscle where injection was sore, mild.

5-6am awake. Body aches esp. Hip joints, feeling active wanting to move tired legs, feet often. Can’t get a comfortable position. Too tired to get up to drink water. Almost feel like too hot, but temperature normal.
Very slight headache comes and goes, then mostly not present.
Slight congestion in left nasal passage, goes away.

9:30 am. Body aches continue. Get up for water, then bed. Continue to toss and turn, can’t get a good position. Tired – more sleep.

11 am. Up from bed to chair, slow start. Achy body, tired and slow.
Appetite – only half a PB&J sandwich. Want to rest in chair listening to tv, but hard to get a non-achy body position for the hips and knees. Left upper arm muscle continues to be sore, minor.

11:20 am back to lying in bed to try and get a more comfortable position, but still tossing and turning.

11:50 am enough energy to get up, brush teeth, return to chair to watch tv.

Random dry cough.

Definitely feels like catching a bad cold or flu without many of the symptoms like sniffles, sneezing, congestion, and fever.

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DaveJune 30, 2021 8:14 PM

Slept most of the day.
Up 6pm dinner, slept until 9pm -only up less than an hour.

Body aches, tired joints.

6/30
12 am sneezed twice out of the blue.

5 am awake. Congestion in nose. Dry. Drank about 10oz water. Still thirsty. Too tired to get up again to drink more.

10am slow, but most of body aches gone. Still tired. Watered garden half hour, shower, cleared out thick snot, breakfast.

12 pm. Feel sleepy.
1pm Diarrhea

Slept
2pm lunch.
3pm worse diarrhea with some cramping and elevated heart rate.
Not fun.
Slept

4pm occasional waves of goosebumps with faster breathing.
Very slight pressure by eyes/temples.

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DaveJuly 2, 2021 12:30 AM

7/1 – Mildly fatigued morning, but all symptoms gone except a slightly sore injection area on the arm. Energy back to normal by the afternoon and no naps needed.

PatJune 13, 2021 9:48 AM

Completed pfizer vaccination March 1, 2021. Diagnosis: right bundle branch block (heart arrhythmia) June 1, 2021 via standard screening, my age 63 years.
I have 2 friends, post covid 19 vaccination, both started atrial fibrillation (heart arrhythmia), after covid vaccination ages: in 70’s.

Indigo BlueJune 12, 2021 7:24 PM

I received the Pfizer vaccine in the last week of January. Two days later, I began to experience muscle cramps and twitching. The cramps subsided after about twelve weeks, however, the twitching persists and is worse after exercise.

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Mike AllenJune 28, 2021 10:21 AM

Hi Indigo. We have posted in the past on our twitching. Well, for everyone’s update – I received the 1st Moderna shot on March 18th. 2 days later I had severe anxiety out of nowhere.. 5 days after vaccine I noticed my calf muscles were twitching. Here it is June 28th, 102 days later and I’m still dealing with constant muscle twitching mainly in my calve muscles, and occasionally everywhere else. My anxiety is much better, but worsens when I feel the twitching. I must say that my fater did die of ALS just one month after I was vaccinated. I have spent over $3,000 on doctor visits, tests, ect… my primary care dr. can’t find anything.. I did see a neurologist twice – Dr. Shawn Wallery. He was the director of an ALC clinic near Rockford IL for many years. He told me he has diagnosed over a thousand ALS cases and doesn’t have the slightest feeling that I have it. He said that usually the twitches go hand in hand with weakness and muscle loss/atrophy. He told me I likely have developed what is known as Benign Fasiculation Syndrome. I was also found to be deficient in Vitamin D @ 18.6. I have been taking high doses of it for the past 13 weeks to try to raise it up. I have been taking other daily vitamins as well like magnesium, b12, mulitvitamin… etc…

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Indigo BlueJuly 3, 2021 3:43 AM

Hi Mike, apologies for the delayed response. Like you, I have spent a lot of money on healthcare since receiving the Pfizer vaccine six months ago. I still experience muscle twitching but mainly in the lower limbs. The episodes may occur once every 2-3 days now and last only a few seconds. On the whole, the fasciculations continue to improve. I honestly think hyperbaric oxygen and more recently, an infusion of nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide made all the difference. The latter also helped with brain fog and fatigue.

For the past 8 weeks or so, I have noticed transient imbalance in the mornings lasting a few minutes.

My bowels have changed in the sense that food which I had no problems with before now cause nausea. I have also noticed some changes in my skin, joints and muscles. It is as if the vaccine has aged me by a few years in six months.

I can only hope that things continue to improve for both of us. I will certainly share any other ideas or tips as we go along.

Best wishes!

Indigo

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Mike AllenJuly 10, 2021 12:25 AM

Thanks Indigo! I too have been feeling nausious more frequently. Its now been 113 days of muscle twitching. I can honestly say that I did get alot of sun and a bad burn on day 109. For the past 4 days, I think I have noticed a decrease in twitching – atleast from the waist up.

For anyone that’s dealing with muscle twitching after a vaccination, you’re not alone. There are plenty of us suffering this. Sudden anxiety seems to come with this. There are many different things you can try but don’t expect results overnight… I was taking all kinds of vitamins and minerals thinking that would stop the twitching. It didn’t… the main thing that helped me was seeing a neurologist that had a speciality in Motor Neuron Diseases, particularly ALS. After being given an all clear twice from him, my mind is at ease and anxiety is going down. I will say though, I regret getting the 1st shot. My whole house had covid back in September and it was very mild. This twitching, anxiety, worry, and money spent wasnt worth it to me. Also, the CDC has the adverse event reporter system called VAERS. I reported this twitching on there. I would suggest anyone with twitching do the same. As of today, July 9th 2021, there are over 1,200 reports of muscle twitching.

Brian EdwardsJune 14, 2021 10:59 PM

Hey Indigo – After my first shot of Pfizer, I’ve also been twitching a ton (calves, buttocks, sides and undersides of legs, eyes). Am now 75 days since my second shot and I haven’t been able to get it under control with any of: Magnesium, Vitamin D, NAC, Glutathione, ALA, Vitamin C. Also feeling anxiety and insomnia. It’s only your posts and a few others that are keeping me from worrying less about ALS. Hope we all get well!

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Indigo BlueJuly 3, 2021 3:50 AM

Hi Brian, I completely understand what you are going through. I was diagnosed as having cramp-fasciculations syndrome. However, the cramps have resolved and the fasciculations have improved significantly. I tried all the supplements that you tried but found a few sessions of hyperbaric oxygen and a nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide infusion to be helpful for the muscular symptoms, anxiety and brain fog.

I also think that keeping up with exercise is beneficial too. I was shocked to see how much my muscles had become de conditioned in the period when I was experiencing the severe cramps.

I am hoping and for a full recovery for us!

Best wishes.

Frederick DowellJune 25, 2021 2:08 PM

About 3 days after I got my second dose of Pfizer, I started having twitching. It was mostly in my legs, but occasionally in my abdomen and arms. They didn’t really come with cramps. They were small, often lasting less than 2 seconds, but they’d happen at random parts of my body nearly constantly throughout the day. Certainly no pain ever. I’m not sure if the anxiety made it worse, but I was very anxious after reading what it could be online. After about a month the twitching has gone down significantly. It is now almost entirely in my legs, and it is far from constant, though it does happen many times a day.

Shelley MorkJune 11, 2021 7:21 PM

I had vaccine in February and a month later my arm started to really hurt and has been painful to this day. Why would I still have such pain around and above injection site after all these months?

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Susan MurphyJune 22, 2021 3:54 PM

OMG! I am having the same issue! My 1st was March 8 and 2nd April 5 (Moderna). To date, I have constant throbbing in the vaccine spot. Pretty much all day long… some days more frequent than others. Wish I knew what caused this.

DaveJune 14, 2021 2:34 AM

https://academic.oup.com/qjmed/advance-article/doi/10.1093/qjmed/hcab043/6153978

Inflammation (myositis) perhaps?
Can take months to resolve.

SPinNCJune 9, 2021 3:49 PM

I received the 1st dose of Pfizer vaccine on May24. I had a little muscle pain at the site of the injection. Three days after shot it was gone. A few days later (maybe during the second week) came the heart palpitations. Seems like many have experienced this and have been checked out only to find that everything is ok. It’s a bit unnerving but drinking water, eating and resting seems to help. Hoping it will subside soon as it is somewhat unsettling. I am trying not to overreact but it does make you feel a little out of sorts and fatigued. I have the second shot coming up in 5 days. Hopefully, it will not make it worse.

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patJuly 8, 2021 1:45 PM

how are you now after the 2nd dose?

AlanJune 22, 2021 2:29 PM

I am in the exact same situation! Keep us posted and best of luck!

MAKJune 15, 2021 7:55 AM

Can you kindly keep us posted on any new updates ? My mother started having heart palpitations after her first shot, all tests so far seem normal but shes getting for 4 consecutive hours, and her second shot is in 5 days. Any information is highly appreciated

CarolJune 9, 2021 12:04 PM

I received the Johnson and Johnson vaccine on March 15th and didn’t really notice any side effects other than a big red mark on my arm that took about 2 weeks to go away. Recently though I have had heart palpitations and don’t know if it is related to the vaccine as I have never had heart problems. I went to my doctor, they did a 24 hr. holter monitor and am diagnosed with pvc’s 20,000 in 24 hours. I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this after the vaccine, this all happened about a month after the vaccine, and continues today.

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BillJune 11, 2021 2:24 PM

Yes, I posted below…I’m now 22 post second shot and heart (knock on wood) is mostly back to normal as far as I can feel.

David MillerJune 9, 2021 2:40 PM

From reading these comments and having quite a few people I know it seems common.

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CarolJune 9, 2021 5:09 PM

yes, honestly I wouldn’t of got the vaccine if I had known this was going to happen, again not sure if it is related, but it just seems too coincidental.

C GJune 8, 2021 11:38 PM

I am a healthy 29yo female and I went in for the first Moderna dose. I went to a pharmacy where they gave me the injection and I was instructed to wait in the lobby for 15 minutes. Within one minute of getting the shot and having a seat, I sent a text to my fiance saying I feel funny. I became lightheaded and my heart began to race rapidly and I began to sweat profusely. I began to fan myself with my vaccine paperwork and that’s when the pharmacist noticed I was having a negative reaction. I dropped to the floor out of my seat and at some point took off my mask, watch and shoes because I was feeling so hot. At that point I had my fiance on the phone and he said I couldn’t respond for a minute or so and sounded like hyperventilating. The medics were called and a person was trying to take my blood pressure which ended up being ok. A few minutes of sitting there the medics came in and I was feeling better and responsive. I declined to go to the hospital with them and walked out of the store within 20 minutes of getting the shot. The following several days I was having heart and chest pain and the pain in my arm went away after 2 weeks. I was advised not to get the second dose but to get the J&J. I probably won’t get that kind because of the blood clots going on. Another thing is I was very depressed for about 2-3 weeks following. I’m also scared about the long term effects this could have on us seeing as it’s an unprecedented type of vaccine but I’m also feel a strange sense of protection from Covid since I’m at least half vaxxed

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JackOctober 3, 2021 4:05 AM

I had an adverse reaction too with moderna, 33 M, healthy, active. Within the minute from taking the jab, I fainted and slowly fell off the chair I was on, I remember as I was losing myself I called for my dad who I brought to encourage to take the jab as well. He managed to quickly find me falling off and catch me. No one else in the cvs even realized I fainted, and the person who administered the shot hid themselves away in the little tent. 4 months later have improved but still struggling with sleep and chest pains like I have shards of glass across my chest.

Chris RJune 16, 2021 4:18 AM

This is so odd. I had almost the exact same reaction. About three to five minutes after sitting in the waiting room I started to feel lightheaded and almost a desire to cry out for hep but I thought I could ground myself. Then I woke up on the floor with medical staff running towards me. I was fine in a few minutes, but now, two to three weeks after the vaccine I’ve been having strange heart palpitations. I think I’m okay but at bight it gives me some serious anxiety. It also makes me kind of sad because I don’t want to spread any undue fear about the vaccine with all the misinformation and bad politics going around but I must admit that it’s a little scary!

Cheryl Clayton-MolinaJune 8, 2021 6:43 AM

I had my 2nd Moderna shot on April 5th and today, June 7th my arm is killing me. I am taking Tylenols and was told it will get better. The pain wakes me up at night. I have been doing exercises and it is still painful. I am very concern even though the Covid nurse informed me when I called, that I should be fine and to continue taking ibuprofen and use hot and cold pads and to exercise my arm. Any suggestions?

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DaveJune 14, 2021 2:38 AM

https://academic.oup.com/qjmed/advance-article/doi/10.1093/qjmed/hcab043/6153978
An example of how long it might take to resolve.

Stay on top of this with your physician and don’t let it go unmonitored.
Pain that wakes you up is not normal, and could need more treatment than just Tylenol and sleep.

Diane TobinJune 12, 2021 10:18 AM

I had my 2nd Moderna shot on March 9, and developed flu symptoms the next day which subsided quickly. In early May I developed a burning sensation at the vaccine site, and my inner elbow began to ache. My doctor diagnosed “Golfer’s Elbow” and told me to use cold (he emphasized not hot) compresses, take pain medication and to rest the arm (NOT exercise it). I followed his instructions and now, mid-June, the burning is severe and the elbow pain has radiated down to my fingers. Painful to type, raise or twist my arm, carry things, use a can opener, etc. I am scheduled to have physical therapy for golfer’s elbow, hope that will help, but don’t know what to do about the burning sensation in the upper arm at the injection site.

Eileen RiccioneJune 5, 2021 3:28 PM

I have the moderna On February 5th. I had no reaction at all but three days later my right foot was very swollen. Had a burning sensation as well couldn’t walk on it. Two rounds of steroids and inflammation went down. March 5th I received my second shot. Minimal reactions. Seems like I was in a fog and a little headache. Six days later I developed vertigo. I’ve never had vertigo in my life. The whole month I was dizzy and have had a severe headache. The headache has not gone away. It has changed my life. Hard to work, workout or even socialize. I have so many test including MRI ( numerous) but they can’t find anything. The headaches are mostly in the top but spread in the back too. Not your normal headache. Anyone have similar symptoms? Going in three months.

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KateJune 7, 2021 6:10 PM

Hi Eileen – I had a first dose of Pfizer that resulted in 3 weeks of headaches that began a day after the shot and then got better each week. Unfortunately, my GP didn’t know if a second shot would be safe so I declined getting it (though I’d love to still be fully vaccinated but only if it’s safe). Your message makes me concerned that perhaps this vaccine is hard on some people’s bodies. I previously had never had a headache … and still haven’t been able to get any information on this. I can tell you that my headache got better and I’ll hope the same for you. Please keep us posted if you learn anything.

Christopher CohenJune 4, 2021 10:05 PM

I was down for three days after my first shot with pain and fever but this is because I believe I already had covid so my first shot was like my second. I had lumps in my armpit the size of grapes for a full week. Two weeks after the Pfizer shot and my arm keeps going numb. I have pain radiating up my shoulder into my neck. There is no way I am getting my second shot.

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